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hello everyone

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welcome welcome welcome welcome

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so here we are let me just

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double check my settings everything's

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good guys

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thank you for being here i'm not going

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to waste any time i'm going to bring on

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john hey what's up vinny how you doing

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my friend

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i'm happy happy to be here finally and

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get to talk to you

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it's an honor and uh let me say that you

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are one of the coolest dudes in this

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field

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i gotta say i'm always like thank you so

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much man

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have so much respect for you as well

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you know i've been following a i've been

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following you for some time man i love

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everything you do

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your artwork your viewpoints you always

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stay really grounded and

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you keep people calm as well i feel you

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thanks man i mean i think it's important

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right i think

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that's one of the cool things about

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being the cool guys

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it's like it's like you gotta

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you got to try and stay grounded and you

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got to keep people calm because this can

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get wild

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quick yeah nah for sure man

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so let's jump straight in and address

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yesterday the ua ptf report

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what were your expectations leading up

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were they matched when it released and

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just a general overview of what you took

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um my expectations leading up to it were

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very low you know i made a whole video

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about worrying about

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the the report and thinking it might

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come out and become like the condon

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report again you know another take of

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yeah and i was just trying to tell

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people like the message needs to be

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right or else

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we might not get the attention that we

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need and

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i think the message

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if you read it a few times and you

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really like

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piece it up piece it apart and think

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about what's being said in it

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it's important and it seems like a

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watered-down version of the world that

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we live in

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right i know people what did you think

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about the nine pages

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to be honest even leading up the week

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leading up so i heard that it was

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possibly even going to be as low as four

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so you know to get nice

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double definitely but i saw your tweet

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today and you made a great point you

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said uh i think it was your tweet

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i might have retweeted somebody else but

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yeah well what the tweet was

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if it was yours or not tweet was that

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it's actually like six pages

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and it's not nine and everyone's saying

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that it's nine but it's actually you

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know you got the title page and then you

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at the end which are nothing um so

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what's called twitter space with uh on

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danny silva's twitter space and i said

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that to me it was almost like a book

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report from high school

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yeah and i said i've written longer book

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reports in high school

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and danny was like what book what book

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was it and i was like the catcher in the

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but i don't know what do you like what

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do you think do you think this is going

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to actually make the impact that we need

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what do you do i think it is going to

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lead to a task force being set up that

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then it has more time it can get i mean

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i've got it up right in front of me now

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when it's talking about all the

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different agencies that they had access

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they were getting stonewalled

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and in such a limited amount of time

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little data that's come out

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permanent one that may get set up has

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agencies then it might be a different

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two years down the line and i think

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that's a minimum time scale plus the

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possibility of congressional hearings

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that'll be a massive massive plus

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definitely definitely um there was one

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thing i was thinking about yesterday

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have you ever heard uh heard tom delong

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talk about the others

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yeah he says that they're actually

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called the others and

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yeah and they kind of like you know mess

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with our species and manipulate us and

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the uh term they use for

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the uap instead of saying i don't know

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ultra-terrestrial or interdimensional so

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unknowns that's my kind of go-to so i've

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like you know i like that i like that

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it's smart it's a smart way to approach

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because i know people pick sorry go on

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say what you were going to say people

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will pick you apart

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based on the word you use so i have to

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be very careful about

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using broader terms 100

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and um you know when you really do look

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i think you are going to change back and

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forth trying to figure out what these

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things really are

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and you're always going to be thinking

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are they interdimensional are they are

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ultra-terrestrial are they

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you know it seems like they've been here

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interacting with our species

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this is my mom

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report we were talking and i said

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like how long do they have to be here

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until they're not alien anymore

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like it doesn't really make any sense

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they're just part of this world

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they could well have been here way

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before we were as well so

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we're the aliens and

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yeah it's crazy isn't it when you really

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try and wrap your head around it i think

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that's the most beautiful part of this

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whole thing

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and trying to figure it out

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and trying to understand what it's

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really about because we can talk all day

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the craft you know people love to focus

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on the craft all the time and right now

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that's kind of where the conversation's

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experiences or abductees or when people

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outside of the context we've been

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presented with for the last few months

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it's kind of like you have to walk a

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line you have to be careful

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what you say yeah definitely man

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and i've heard a lot of talk and a lot

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of people who are complaining a little

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bit saying

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well why do they bother just talking to

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the military why don't they go and speak

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to the millions of witnesses out there

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narrative which is fine and we're not

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they don't want to listen to them people

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that's why the nine-page report for some

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people was a complete letdown

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because they were thinking i don't know

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open with its people that's something

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you know people there's a lot of it's

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strange it's like i don't know if this

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happened to you or how long you've been

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looking into this topic

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but when i was younger the government

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secrets they don't trust them you know

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yeah ah man that's another conversation

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we'll maybe get to it in a little while

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yeah um i don't know if you felt that

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chris mellon and just this this aspect

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of this story kind of i had to like

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sit on it and think on it and see where

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they were coming from before i could

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actually invest myself

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in what they were saying oh absolutely

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man i think from that first ttsa press

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conference in october of 2017 when i saw

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them all stand up on stage and you

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you got to see the different names and

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who they are from that day on i was

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everything and as much as i could of

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them i think lou did a i think it was a

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talk and it was probably one of his

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first talks on stage

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and it really gave me hope and i was

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like this guy better be the real deal

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and it turned out to me that in my

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opinion he is the real deal

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me too you know i think he is a real

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deal and i think we're lucky to have

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with that kind of mindset and that kind

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of background and training

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because he's going in to get the job

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done you know he's kind of like an

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he's the guy that's uh he's he's

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kicking down doors and taking names he's

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you know he's not sitting back it's talk

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but the report i gotta say i think it

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was good and i think i agree with you

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where i think now they're gonna get more

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funding and they're gonna

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focus a little bit more on this topic um

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there were so many parts of the report

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that were kind of crazy like the

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uh they talk about if i'm not mistaken i

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actually have it open too

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cool i was gonna say they talk about uh

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was it balloons at one point like as uh

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yeah

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as an explanation and i was like i can't

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believe this man like

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they're again with the balloons they

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don't stop with these balloons

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i know it's just a continuous thing and

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the funny part is

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like i think a lot of the time i

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understand that

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it's not always ufos it's not always

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what we think it is but i think that um

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you know the drone conversation these

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kinds of conversations that people have

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i'm like

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most of the time you know it's a drone i

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mean if you've ever seen a drone in the

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sky

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you know it's a drone if you see a

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balloon you kind of know it's a balloon

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yeah um especially for trained observers

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that's the part that really gets me

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absolutely

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and that that just actually that's some

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pops something just popped into my head

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and

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it was uh when mick west appeared on the

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unidentified celebrity review because i

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was in the comments i kept seeing you

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in as well i wanted to talk to you about

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that as well not just mick west but the

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whole debunking and

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trying to stick to that balloon

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narrative it's it's yeah

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it's frustrating uh that day i was

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actually having a bad day

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and i went into the you know i told the

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guys after i said hey sorry i was

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reacting that way in the chat i was just

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i had a bad day and then i saw mick west

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and i got to say

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i got triggered by mick west and i'm a

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cool guy i'm a collective guy

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and that day i was just not feeling it

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it's just because you know i saw him on

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cnn

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and i'm like i can't believe this guy's

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on cnn look what we've created

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we created a monster yeah

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it's definitely like i don't know if you

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get this take but i understand that

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people want to have

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all possibilities on the table and

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discussion is always good

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but being a blind skeptic is dangerous

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just like being a blind believer is

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dangerous

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right yeah and for me mick west is

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not blind he's like has no eyes you know

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he's like

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he's just sitting there he just he for

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me hasn't debunked anything

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no he's in here because he just

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continues he uses

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that bit of data that fits his narrative

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and then eliminates all the rest or kind

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of hides it

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away 100 i completely agree with you man

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so i i don't think i'll ever bring him

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on my channel just because i feel like

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he's

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he has enough voices out there you know

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uh help helping his

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his his point of view get out and

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i don't want to sound like somebody that

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thinks that

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you know not everybody's point of view

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should be listened to but he's become a

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very powerful voice in the community

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like people

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they always bring up make west right yes

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that day i was just kind of like oh my

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god like i'm so over this guy

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like i'm so done with and he made he

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made one of my favorite video games of

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all time

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now he helped make it like yeah i never

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thought that

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the person that created that video game

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would ever be on my like

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you know on my list of people that i

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don't want to talk to

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but this is always i think funny as well

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as i just want to say to him

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dude there were glitches in tony hawk

389
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pro's gator that wasn't perfect

390
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you know there were tricks missing that

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should have been in there god damn it

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but definitely i could pull him apart he

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can pull us apart we can pull him apart

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the dangerous part definitely the

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dangerous part about mick west and a lot

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of people

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in this community is there are a lot of

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brilliant minds in this community

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and i look i'm a chill dude you got

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venice in the background

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i don't know if i'm a brilliant mind or

402
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not you know i can't have

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conversations about quantum physics or

404
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sure yeah

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i can have basic ones we can talk about

406
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a little bit but i can't break it down

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for you like

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and make west is one of those dangerous

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minds you know

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it's like uh i don't know if you

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remember like back in high school

412
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i was kind of like uh one of the you

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know freaks and geeks

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you know yeah if i if i wanted to be

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cool i could be cool but i didn't like

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the cool kids too much because they were

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always kind of you know messing with

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everybody and

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i mean like the sports jocks and that

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kind of thing yeah and i thought they

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were just a bunch of jerks you know

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um so then i would like stand up

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sometimes for like

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somebody that's getting picked on or i

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try to become friends with them because

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they were alone eating alone or

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something

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yeah sometimes you'd do that and it

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would be this

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smart brilliant kid and he was just as

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much

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of a jerk as the jock and you were like

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and you were just like wow man i thought

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you know i came over here to eat with

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you

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and uh i guess i'm gonna leave now but

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you know i i've met a lot of brilliant

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people that

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are pretty dumb at the end of the day

440
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you know uh

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so i don't want to call mick west dumb

442
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but you know

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i get what you're trying to say no i'm

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fully i fully get what you're trying to

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say

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um yeah i mean i think we know as well

447
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that mick west

448
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i i don't have a problem with debunkers

449
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as as a general rule

450
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they make us work harder or other people

451
00:15:01,670 --> 00:15:00,000
that are researching the same things but

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i think mick west

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he's become something more he he plays

454
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on it a bit for me

455
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and i think he really likes testing

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people on ufo twitter

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especially because he always does seem

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to

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calm and i think he just sees other

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people getting riled up and heated

461
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and he yeah yeah i just think it's a

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ploy

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and he's got some hardcore uh fans you

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know

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that are just like at the moment you say

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make west they start popping up

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and they start popping up and i'm sure

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i've lost subscribers or

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followers or whatever yeah or contacts

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because

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conversation but

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it's fine you know just personally it's

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like

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you can pick to have certain people in

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your circle and you don't and for me

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i wouldn't have that that in my circle

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it would just drive me nuts it would

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just be

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too it's too much i understand like you

480
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said debunking

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is very useful because it helps i'm i'm

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so down

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for people debunking stuff even if i

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post something and i'm like hey what do

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00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:01,600
you guys think and somebody goes

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that is proven this way and this is

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wrong and this is what it is boom

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if they can do it and show it to me i'm

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all good high five

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them thank you man let's throw that in

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the garbage you know let's get rid of

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that

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let's look at something else um

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sometimes we're wrong

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i mean i would say i'm wrong

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like uh i i'm a normal person

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like i make mistakes i have bad

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judgments sometimes

499
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yeah i think it's people just like to

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pull ufo

501
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i was gonna say researchers but everyone

502
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in the field of ufology they say

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something wrong like it

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00:16:40,790 --> 00:16:38,959
they're like you know they zone in

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yeah they get you man they go for the

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jugular straight away

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um definitely you you must know what

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00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,279
that's like too because

509
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any of us on social media we totally get

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it you know

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um every single day every day yeah you

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get a comment you get a message you get

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a weird dm

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00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:00,639
you get uh some crazy dm sometimes

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um so

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yeah man i would say ignore the trolls

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the best you can don't let them get to

518
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you you know

519
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absolutely everyone listening to this

520
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right now please

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this is a service announcement from the

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gaucho ignore the trolls

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ignore them don't let them get to you

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because they will

525
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yeah they will and there's people that

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will like um

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they'll like troll you without even

528
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without you even realizing that they're

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trolling you

530
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and they and they're cracking up and

531
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there for them it's the funniest thing

532
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in the world

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i don't know i don't troll anybody

534
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really no

535
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i don't get it i don't get it either i

536
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don't have time for that like

537
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it's a waste of time yeah i mean i'm all

538
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for disagreeing with someone but i

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always

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when i say this to all my my colleagues

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across

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twitter and especially instagram is that

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it's totally okay to have differences of

544
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opinion

545
00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:02,799
completely different views on uap and

546
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anything else

547
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life in general but you've always got to

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maintain

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a level of maturity of respect and of

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class

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and if if you don't then you're just

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going to make yourself look like a fool

553
00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:16,960
it's not necessarily then about what

554
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you're saying it's about

555
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how you're saying it how you're coming

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across i'm i'm not

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i'm not down for that kind of thing and

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that's a great

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that's great advice definitely the

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especially the class part

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because at the end of the day that's

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what you need you know it's because

563
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we're all we're all after the same thing

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and that's

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that's kind of if we get we have to

566
00:18:38,789 --> 00:18:36,720
split out and then come together at a

567
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:38,799
later time in in the future when

568
00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:41,440
we get more information that middle bit

569
00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:43,600
where we're all separated a bit

570
00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:46,000
doesn't mean it has to be dicks no

571
00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:47,360
that's totally true you know you know

572
00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:51,990
i don't know if you've been thinking

573
00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:54,320
about this but like everyone keeps

574
00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:55,919
saying like so what about ufo like in

575
00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:57,600
the media they're like so the ufos

576
00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:58,960
is it real and the government's

577
00:19:01,350 --> 00:19:00,480
basically like glue keeps saying this

578
00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:01,360
the government

579
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:04,320
has already confirmed that uap are real

580
00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:06,320
yes now what they are that's the second

581
00:19:09,909 --> 00:19:07,440
question

582
00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,919
so everyone's waiting for the ua the uap

583
00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:11,520
report

584
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:14,400
to prove to them that maybe they have i

585
00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:16,000
guess crash craft or

586
00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:18,480
alien bodies or whatever but ufos are

587
00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:19,200
real guys

588
00:19:23,669 --> 00:19:21,600
like we're in a whole new ballpark i

589
00:19:26,789 --> 00:19:23,679
never thought i'd see this or live

590
00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:26,799
through this you know um

591
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:30,400
i don't know what do you think like

592
00:19:33,669 --> 00:19:32,880
my mind completely changed over the last

593
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:33,679
few years

594
00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:37,440
yeah 100 percent man probably the last

595
00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:38,720
well probably i mean we can all say

596
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:40,720
since 2017 it's changed

597
00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:43,760
the paradigm the way we look at it and

598
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:45,200
then i think the confirmation

599
00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:48,320
came or started really coming thick and

600
00:19:52,070 --> 00:19:50,160
hard when the pentacon were confirming

601
00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:52,080
that these videos were real and

602
00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:53,760
that they were there as they verified

603
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:55,600
them that it came from navy systems that

604
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:57,200
added a lot of clout

605
00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:59,679
to the subject and then i think leading

606
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:01,280
up to this report these past six months

607
00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:01,919
has

608
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:06,000
lot of people

609
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:07,120
but then you get the people that were

610
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:08,640
like well i knew it's i've known it's

611
00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:09,919
real for

612
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:12,960
10 20 years now yeah

613
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:16,240
i get that i do and i've read enough

614
00:20:19,270 --> 00:20:17,120
things in the past

615
00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:19,280
10 15 years for me to pretty much go

616
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:20,320
yeah it's real

617
00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:23,440
i i but i'll never quite go

618
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:25,919
as far as saying yeah it's real because

619
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:27,120
as soon as someone says well

620
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:28,720
show me the evidence and proof i'll be

621
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:30,480
like

622
00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:31,679
there's the odd bit here in this

623
00:20:36,950 --> 00:20:34,080
document and the odd bit here and

624
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:36,960
you know it's it's not as simple as that

625
00:20:40,149 --> 00:20:38,480
no it's not as simple as that

626
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:40,159
and that's the difficult part yeah

627
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:42,880
that's why looking into ufos is not easy

628
00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:45,120
talking about this topic is not easy

629
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:46,960
interacting with people on it is not

630
00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:47,600
easy

631
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:49,280
sometimes i wonder like why didn't i

632
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:50,960
make up i don't get

633
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:53,840
into cooking or something like that you

634
00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:54,480
know

635
00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:56,880
or i could just like grab a recipe and

636
00:20:58,789 --> 00:20:58,320
follow the recipe and everything will be

637
00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:58,799
fine

638
00:21:03,830 --> 00:21:02,000
yeah yeah but this is a

639
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:03,840
this is a game of chess constant game of

640
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:06,320
chess and the more you look

641
00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:09,039
the deeper you get right i don't know if

642
00:21:12,470 --> 00:21:10,320
you get that experience i'll have

643
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,480
moments where it's like

644
00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:14,480
i don't know a weekend where i'm just

645
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:16,000
like i clock out

646
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:19,360
of work and i'm just i think friday

647
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,799
until sunday like 24 7 doom doom doom

648
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:24,080
doom looking at cases looking at

649
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:26,640
pictures looking at photos and my videos

650
00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:28,080
and i'm like my wife's like what are you

651
00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:29,919
doing i'm like i'm researching or i'm

652
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:31,120
trying to figure this out or i'm looking

653
00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:32,880
at this i'm going to do this and i'm

654
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,480
it's constant it never stops because

655
00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:35,919
there's no

656
00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:37,520
answer yet we don't have the full answer

657
00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:39,679
yet does not and also i

658
00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:42,159
i find that the minute i step away for

659
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:44,880
half an hour an hour a few hours

660
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,840
you forget you lose your flow and that

661
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:49,200
man it's almost like you start from

662
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:50,320
scratch again even though you've been

663
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:52,080
doing it for two hours or whatever it's

664
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:54,960
it's oh it's crazy man oh it totally

665
00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:55,600
happens

666
00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:58,960
yeah i'm actually horrible uh with cases

667
00:22:00,950 --> 00:22:00,640
like if you ask me like when was that

668
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,960
what

669
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:02,640
was the date of this case oh man i'm

670
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,480
terrible i'm terrible i'm not like

671
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:06,080
richard dolan that's why

672
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:07,679
i think he's so awesome you know those

673
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:10,000
kinds of researchers i can pull

674
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:12,320
that just have the information stored

675
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:13,919
it's like

676
00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:16,799
i i think they are a valuable resource

677
00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:17,840
and we're going to lose it it's because

678
00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:18,799
we have short memory

679
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:21,039
we're a different generation yeah and we

680
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:22,799
have short memory spans so you

681
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:25,679
when you log when you step away you like

682
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:26,000
actually

683
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:28,880
step away like you i don't know you go

684
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:30,640
on instagram or you go outside you go

685
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:31,760
skateboarding you go eat

686
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:33,600
you go do something and you completely

687
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:35,440
disconnect and then you come back

688
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:37,760
you log on and you're right you're like

689
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:39,520
what was i what was it again what was

690
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:40,559
the name of this

691
00:22:43,679 --> 00:22:48,789
totally no it's exactly that man

692
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:51,830
so one thing i did want to speak to you

693
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:52,559
about is

694
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:54,880
obviously where what has have you always

695
00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:56,480
been an artist as well

696
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:58,159
like because that's obviously a big part

697
00:23:03,270 --> 00:22:59,840
of what i see and i love

698
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:03,280
your style about it as well it's so cool

699
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:03,679
man

700
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:09,360
yeah i've always been into into art i

701
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:10,400
was like just something i

702
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:13,039
was always excelled at as a kid i was

703
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:15,039
never like the best artist you know like

704
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:16,640
that could paint portraits

705
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,960
realistic portraits of people and yeah

706
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:20,320
but

707
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:22,240
i i just liked it you know i did

708
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:23,360
graffiti

709
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:26,000
and one part of my life so i mean venice

710
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:27,200
beach you know you got

711
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:28,799
there's a whole section there dedicated

712
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,320
so just like where you can

713
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,880
do graffiti on the beach yeah you know

714
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:34,400
it wasn't always

715
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,840
in designated areas but

716
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:39,440
i'm saying i always i don't know what it

717
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:40,880
is i've always been into

718
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:43,039
into art just like if you asked me about

719
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:44,480
how i got into ufos

720
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:46,640
i will probably say this a similar thing

721
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:49,279
where it's just

722
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:52,240
always been part of me yeah who i am in

723
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:53,919
my story it's like i never could ignore

724
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:54,559
it

725
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:57,760
my whole life no that's cool man totally

726
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:59,039
and then you've done some other things

727
00:24:02,230 --> 00:24:00,000
recently haven't you just sort of

728
00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:02,240
branched off into nfts as well

729
00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:03,919
well yeah i i mean i thought that was

730
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,080
really interesting being you know

731
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:08,080
the starving artist was a thing that

732
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:09,760
existed when i was a kid right and i

733
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:11,200
went to college

734
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:12,559
and like i said excellent art i was

735
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:15,120
horrible in math and

736
00:24:20,549 --> 00:24:18,240
and by the time i got out of high school

737
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:20,559
you know i spent a lot of time surfing

738
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:21,840
on the beach

739
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:23,760
i just said i you know did graffiti and

740
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:25,200
all this kind of stuff i wasn't like the

741
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:26,480
most

742
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,240
uh like centered kid i guess i

743
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:32,799
i was kind of out there like i spent a

744
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:33,440
lot of time

745
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:36,880
skateboarding and outside yeah man and

746
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:39,600
so for me school was kind of like it was

747
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:40,400
cool

748
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:41,760
and i was getting you know i got into

749
00:24:46,390 --> 00:24:44,559
trouble i went to a different school for

750
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:46,400
my last year of high school

751
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:49,120
it was funny with my parents decided to

752
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,520
move

753
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:51,200
out of we left venice and we went to

754
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:54,000
calabasas which is like the complete

755
00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:57,520
opposite of yeah my brother had

756
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,840
my brother was living there and we we

757
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,360
went to like this little

758
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,520
like con like condos like little

759
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,200
apartments or something

760
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:07,440
and it was supposedly cheaper they were

761
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:08,640
just trying to find cheap

762
00:25:12,390 --> 00:25:11,679
rent and i guess that apartment complex

763
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:12,400
area

764
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:16,559
was cheap and the rest of the houses

765
00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:19,440
were just like crazy mansions and giant

766
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:20,640
houses

767
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,400
so i went from venice to that and then i

768
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:24,640
went to this school that was like

769
00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:25,919
i don't know it was like a disney movie

770
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:28,240
kind of school you know just like rich

771
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:29,039
kids and

772
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,840
glamour totally totally it was a pub it

773
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,360
was a public school

774
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,520
but uh i remember the first day of

775
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,200
school i went on

776
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,200
i took a yellow bus you know like in the

777
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,440
movies the yellow bus

778
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,440
but i was a senior right so i'm like the

779
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:45,200
oldest kid on the bus the first day of

780
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,240
school

781
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:48,720
they're all little kids like freshmen

782
00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:50,080
taking the bus to school for the first

783
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,720
time

784
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:53,039
and i'm on the back of the bus and i get

785
00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:54,000
off the bus

786
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:55,919
and i'm walking through the school and

787
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:57,600
there was these uh

788
00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,400
like jocks right and it was really funny

789
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:01,840
they had uh

790
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:03,760
they had bandanas around their heads and

791
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:05,440
they were all different colors

792
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:07,120
like one was a red one one had a yellow

793
00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:09,840
one one had a green one one

794
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:12,159
and i found out they were like a like a

795
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,960
fake

796
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:14,799
like like they who knows what they

797
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:16,240
thought they were but they were like a

798
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:17,120
fake gang

799
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,120
right and they were the yeah they were

800
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:21,679
the rainbows or something like that

801
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:25,520
that was super funny so i had a you know

802
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:29,200
i think that year was just it was

803
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:30,720
terrible for me you know i was away from

804
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:32,159
all my friends in the beach i got to

805
00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:34,000
surf malibu a lot that was the only cool

806
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:35,840
thing that's cool man

807
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:39,360
and uh yeah so i went to college

808
00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,880
and i was like i had to go to community

809
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:42,640
college because my grades were not good

810
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:47,520
when i left i was good yeah and uh

811
00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:50,799
i went to study art and

812
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:54,240
the issue was was like you couldn't make

813
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:55,120
money

814
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:56,640
as an artist people were like you're not

815
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:58,159
gonna make any money you're gonna waste

816
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,960
your time

817
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:59,919
you're gonna go to college you're gonna

818
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:01,840
make your parents pay for college and

819
00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,559
then

820
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:04,400
you're gonna get you know student debt

821
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,679
and all this kind of stuff and i was

822
00:27:10,149 --> 00:27:07,520
like

823
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:10,159
i guess you're right you know and now i

824
00:27:13,590 --> 00:27:11,520
regret that so much

825
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:13,600
because i was like everything i was the

826
00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:15,120
courses i were taking ended up being

827
00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:17,600
because we went into this digital world

828
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:20,799
like so valuable right um i was taking

829
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:21,279
like

830
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:25,840
four people in the class

831
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:28,480
and then and now it's like dude you

832
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,200
could have been

833
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:30,960
you had a great career you just didn't

834
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:32,240
have to listen to all those people that

835
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:33,200
just didn't know

836
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,399
we were going to be doing this for

837
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:36,320
example yeah but hindsight's a beautiful

838
00:27:40,870 --> 00:27:37,840
thing isn't it

839
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:40,880
it is definitely so the nft thing i mean

840
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:41,840
i think

841
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:44,320
artists should have you know the

842
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:45,600
possibility

843
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:49,279
to step into this new space

844
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:52,080
um because i think that digital art is

845
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,039
going to be the future

846
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:55,360
as we get more and more virtual people

847
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,559
like what we're doing right now

848
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,399
is basically like something from star

849
00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:59,600
trek yeah you're

850
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:02,080
little like and i think it's just gonna

851
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:03,520
get it's gonna get further and further

852
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:04,559
with vr

853
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,880
and all this kind of stuff oh yeah man

854
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,240
so

855
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,880
i just said like yeah i gotta do this

856
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:12,000
because

857
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:14,080
it looks like artists are getting you

858
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:15,600
know they're making the living off and i

859
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,480
said cool

860
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:18,399
i should make it digital and do it

861
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:20,080
digital and get into that space

862
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:23,919
i also did the uh the ufo disclosure now

863
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:25,679
and actually talk about that man explain

864
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:27,279
to people what that is

865
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:29,760
it actually started um more from that

866
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:32,320
end right

867
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,880
because i was sitting around thinking

868
00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:36,399
how do i make a difference right how do

869
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,200
i leave a mark

870
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,679
or how do i change what's going on and

871
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:41,520
people were saying

872
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:43,760
uh we need money we need funding we need

873
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:44,720
to get you know

874
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:48,320
uh this topic into colleges and

875
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:51,360
uh we need basically just more money

876
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:54,080
yeah and the crypto the crypto world

877
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:54,640
again like

878
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,480
i think it's the future right now it's

879
00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,039
tanking yeah tell me about it

880
00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:01,919
yeah yeah tell me about it too it's

881
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:03,200
thinking but

882
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:05,760
but i think it is going to come back up

883
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:07,600
again and i think it is

884
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:09,279
it's the future of money people have

885
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:12,320
this weird uh

886
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,840
this weird i don't know if this happens

887
00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:14,880
to you when you talk to people about

888
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,240
cryptocurrencies but

889
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:18,559
they're like so what is it you know like

890
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:19,600
it's basically

891
00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:21,760
it's the same as that piece of paper you

892
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:23,120
have in your pocket

893
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:26,080
it's just different right it's digital

894
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:26,880
currency

895
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:29,360
so what it does is it allows you to have

896
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:30,080
super fast

897
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,279
transactions and

898
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,279
and basically it's kind of freeing us

899
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:37,120
from the banking systems even though

900
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:38,399
they're getting their

901
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:41,440
their claws into it you know

902
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:42,960
yeah that was inevitable but it is

903
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:44,799
almost like cutting out the middleman to

904
00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:45,679
a degree

905
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:48,799
100 it's awesome yeah you can

906
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,600
literally send like money in two seconds

907
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:53,200
to somebody you can just be like

908
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,640
check your wallet and then they check

909
00:29:59,990 --> 00:29:57,120
the wall and they got the money so the

910
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:00,000
i was thinking you know being into that

911
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:01,600
even though i'm not like

912
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,279
super uh into it i have too much

913
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:07,520
i spend too much time doing this to be

914
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:08,559
super into that

915
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:12,240
but not exactly the same man but i think

916
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,000
you know i think it's the future and i

917
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:16,159
think what we need to do is focus on

918
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:19,279
possibilities of using that community to

919
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:21,200
fund projects that we need so ufo

920
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:22,880
disclosure now is that

921
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:25,919
is created on um

922
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:29,279
the blockchain so it's like i created it

923
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:31,520
right but as more people join the dow

924
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:32,960
they each get voting rights

925
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:36,080
and then somebody comes and requests

926
00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:37,679
a grant and what they do is when they

927
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:39,279
request the grant

928
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,880
they say well this is my project this is

929
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:42,640
what i'm working on maybe they're like

930
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:43,600
we want to

931
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,799
fund college courses for arizona state

932
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:48,000
college or something

933
00:30:51,830 --> 00:30:50,240
and we need this much money if there's a

934
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,840
bunch of crypto

935
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:53,840
people that are rich from dogecoin

936
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,240
inside of the ufo disclosure dow

937
00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:58,480
then we can just give them the grant and

938
00:31:02,710 --> 00:30:59,679
not worry about it

939
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:02,720
and there's lots of dows out there that

940
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:03,440
fund

941
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:06,720
uh businesses and projects yeah

942
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:09,039
there's one crazy one has a crazy name

943
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,240
moloch dao

944
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,880
and moloch is like a baby eater god or

945
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:14,000
something

946
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:16,640
from from some really some i don't know

947
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:17,039
what

948
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:21,120
religion is from but uh

949
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:24,000
that that dow like funds a bunch of

950
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:25,120
businesses like they

951
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:28,159
they start small businesses so that's

952
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,600
basically what the disclosure does and

953
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:31,360
the thing is it's non-profit so it's

954
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,799
like

955
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,480
i don't make any money from it and it

956
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:37,039
literally if say brandon fuel joins

957
00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:38,000
tomorrow

958
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:40,559
and he puts i don't know let's say

959
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:42,080
something crazy like

960
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:43,600
five thousand dollars that's not even

961
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:46,399
crazy for him but i'm just listening

962
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,840
um my voting right will like

963
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:51,600
drop down a little bit right i'll still

964
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:54,399
have control over what's going on

965
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:55,760
yeah that's that's the one part that i

966
00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:57,120
was kind of like thinking about you know

967
00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:58,840
how does how is this gonna

968
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:01,840
evolve sure but i was like you know what

969
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:04,880
if i don't do this nobody's gonna do it

970
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,360
no i gotta do it and hopefully we can

971
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:09,039
make a difference and

972
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:11,039
we'll see if it works you know it's the

973
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,840
crypto space is confusing and

974
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:14,000
complicated

975
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:16,000
and the one thing i was saying what i

976
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:18,480
was thinking when creating this was like

977
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:20,799
i'm gonna have to focus this on to the

978
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,840
crypto community

979
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:23,440
because i'm worried that some of the ufo

980
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:25,279
community doesn't understand how crypto

981
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:25,919
works

982
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:30,080
yeah or have any crypto or you know um

983
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:33,679
so yeah so basically you join the dow

984
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:36,159
by like pledging something to the dow

985
00:32:40,070 --> 00:32:37,519
which fills up the bank

986
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:40,080
and then there people come in submit uh

987
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:41,279
request for grants

988
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,559
and they get the grant so who knows

989
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:45,120
maybe next maybe richard dolan needs to

990
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:47,200
put out a new book and he wants to do it

991
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:48,480
all on his own

992
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:51,840
here you go maybe um they want to put

993
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:54,880
sky hubs throughout los angeles

994
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:58,399
here you go you know um but at the end

995
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:59,679
of the day it's gonna all depend on the

996
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:00,640
community and

997
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:03,279
what they vote on what they accept so i

998
00:33:05,669 --> 00:33:04,480
love it i think it's such a good

999
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:05,679
thing to do and like you said you were a

1000
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:09,120
bit unsure about doing it i'm all for

1001
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:11,840
just try man because yeah unless you're

1002
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:12,799
going to lose like a

1003
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:14,480
ton of money and he'll ruin your life

1004
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:16,240
then don't risk that

1005
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:18,799
but if it's pretty like at the end of

1006
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,080
the day not going to really affect your

1007
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:22,080
life if it fails at least you tried and

1008
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:22,640
i think that's

1009
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:25,200
that says a lot about a person and then

1010
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:26,399
one of them you never know it might

1011
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:28,080
[\h__\h] work

1012
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:31,120
right you never know i got it how to

1013
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:32,640
kind of get it out there you know to the

1014
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:34,559
right people

1015
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:37,440
and then i guess we have to wait and see

1016
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:39,039
what happens right like

1017
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:43,279
have you uh have you dm'd brandon fugel

1018
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:46,480
no i should have

1019
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:49,200
i haven't like uh i put it out and i

1020
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:50,399
literally said you know what i gotta put

1021
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:51,600
this out now

1022
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,799
yeah right now because um some i'm going

1023
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:55,919
to share this with you guys but

1024
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:57,440
something really crazy happened

1025
00:34:01,190 --> 00:33:59,919
where the original name of the dao that

1026
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:01,200
i could created

1027
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:03,600
somebody took the actual name and

1028
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:05,279
created something else with it

1029
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:07,200
whoa but like the actual name and i was

1030
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:08,320
like [\h__\h]

1031
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:12,079
you know i was like what is going on and

1032
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:13,679
i like went on youtube they were like

1033
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,879
talking about it on youtube and i was

1034
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:16,240
like this is not

1035
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:17,599
this can't happen because this is

1036
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:19,760
exactly the exact name

1037
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:23,359
and it wasn't ufo disclosure though so

1038
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:26,720
damn so i had to i had to sit down

1039
00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:28,240
talk to people to get everything changed

1040
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:30,639
because you know i made a web page and

1041
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,800
created a dow i had to like pull stuff

1042
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:34,399
and get stuff and put things back

1043
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:34,960
together

1044
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:37,280
and i was like you know what i'm

1045
00:34:39,669 --> 00:34:38,240
releasing this

1046
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,679
right now because i don't want that to

1047
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:42,000
happen again and the nft thing too

1048
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:45,280
people were like brilliant people

1049
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:47,040
were shooting me uh messages when they

1050
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:48,560
saw me drop the nfts and they were like

1051
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:50,000
hey we should create a trading card

1052
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:51,280
thing and when they were saying that to

1053
00:34:55,109 --> 00:34:52,079
me

1054
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:55,119
i was creating the nfc trading card

1055
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:55,599
thing

1056
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:57,119
wow and i didn't i didn't want to tell

1057
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,920
them like hey you know what

1058
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:01,520
i'm already doing that i was just kind

1059
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:02,880
of i said like hey i'm working on

1060
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:03,920
something

1061
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,320
similar i'll let you know when it's

1062
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:08,320
ready but that's a great idea

1063
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,079
but um i was just like dude this is

1064
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:14,640
evolving super fast and if i don't do

1065
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:16,400
this i'm gonna like

1066
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,520
either i'm gonna put it out after

1067
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:19,200
somebody else does it and it's just

1068
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:20,240
gonna be like oh he

1069
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:23,440
he's copying that person sure or

1070
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:26,320
so yeah thank you thank you to all those

1071
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:27,200
people

1072
00:35:29,829 --> 00:35:28,640
and i just want to say thank you to all

1073
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:29,839
those people that were shooting me dms

1074
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:30,720
about the

1075
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,160
the trading card thing because i was but

1076
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,640
i was like damn i can't see anything

1077
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:36,240
i was like i can't say anything to these

1078
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:38,079
i can't say anything to anybody

1079
00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:39,200
the whole time i couldn't say anything

1080
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:41,119
to anybody about anything i just

1081
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:44,880
took it took like i know a few a few

1082
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,440
months

1083
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:47,359
like before i launched the first nft i

1084
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:48,720
was already thinking

1085
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:49,920
about the training because i was into

1086
00:35:53,349 --> 00:35:51,920
crypto punks yeah

1087
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,359
i've only become aware of that in the

1088
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,119
last few months but they

1089
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:57,280
they go for so much money as well well

1090
00:36:01,829 --> 00:35:58,720
there you go that's

1091
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:01,839
that's what that's what also the

1092
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:04,079
10 of whatever gets sold on martian

1093
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:05,760
token which are my nfts

1094
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:08,800
will go to the dow so if

1095
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:10,800
the martian token ever for some reason

1096
00:36:14,870 --> 00:36:12,560
becomes like a crypto punk

1097
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:14,880
then we're set then i can just and who

1098
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:16,480
knows if i had i said this a bunch of

1099
00:36:19,589 --> 00:36:16,880
times

1100
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:19,599
if i was like brandon fugle i would have

1101
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:21,680
like a team of dedicated

1102
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,440
i would just take some of every everyone

1103
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:25,359
all you guys

1104
00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:28,240
and i'd be like let's go out i'll buy a

1105
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:29,599
house somewhere

1106
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,280
and we'll fly there and we'll go and do

1107
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:33,359
some researching and figure stuff out

1108
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:35,599
i'd have like my own a team dedicated to

1109
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:36,560
ufo so

1110
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:39,760
sick man i'd love that

1111
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,880
we need that we need that

1112
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,720
all right that sounds good man i just

1113
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,000
wish you nothing but the best with that

1114
00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:48,079
and i will keep my eye on it as well

1115
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,640
um so let's jump back into uap i think a

1116
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:52,320
lot of people want to want to hear a bit

1117
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:52,880
more

1118
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:55,599
here's a question for you and it's not

1119
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:57,200
good not necessarily an easy one but

1120
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:58,079
i'll ask it

1121
00:37:01,750 --> 00:37:00,960
what is your favorite case of all time

1122
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:01,760
my favorite case

1123
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:05,760
of all time um

1124
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:13,190
it's gonna be the aerial school case

1125
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,760
nice

1126
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:15,680
you know the aerial school because i

1127
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:18,640
always say this and because of uh

1128
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:20,240
james fox is the phenomenon people are

1129
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,160
like oh yeah of course

1130
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,920
the ariel and i'm like no i've actually

1131
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:25,680
i had videos on my channel about the

1132
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,560
aerial case

1133
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:29,280
way before the phenomenon came out yeah

1134
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,040
um

1135
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:33,520
but it's a it's an amazing case where

1136
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:35,359
they come out of the craft

1137
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,760
the kids all these kids saw these beings

1138
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:39,359
and i don't think they're making it up

1139
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,440
honestly they still hold their story to

1140
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,920
today yeah and uh

1141
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:45,200
and there are a lot of cases out there

1142
00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:47,200
of sightings where

1143
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:50,000
you know that happen on school yards you

1144
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:52,000
know you have the wessel case too

1145
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,760
very good case as well again that's been

1146
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:55,680
in the in the public domain for a long

1147
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,880
time and

1148
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:58,240
it's good that it got picked up recently

1149
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,920
as well in that australian documentary

1150
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:01,760
but i saw a document or a report

1151
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:03,200
recently that there's been

1152
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:05,280
hundreds of cases similar to both of

1153
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,400
those two

1154
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:08,640
yeah i'd love to see more of that become

1155
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:11,680
to the mainstream come to the forefront

1156
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,160
the problem is that they're kids you

1157
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:16,079
know and people always have this

1158
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:17,280
imagine if they don't believe the

1159
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,480
butcher and the baker they're not going

1160
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:20,079
to believe a group of kids

1161
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,240
yeah but i have more faith in kids than

1162
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:23,839
i do in adults to be honest

1163
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,960
i do um i think they tell you genuinely

1164
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:28,000
what they saw

1165
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:31,040
you know and what what they felt

1166
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:33,280
and adults kind of worry about saying

1167
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,640
things you know you sit down with

1168
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,640
an abductee and they're going to be like

1169
00:38:39,270 --> 00:38:38,240
yeah but i don't know if it was an alien

1170
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:39,280
if he has a kid he's going to be like

1171
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,150
so straight up yeah so

1172
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,920
for me it's like one of the best cases

1173
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:49,599
out there there's a lot of good cases

1174
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:50,079
though

1175
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:51,520
yeah and that's the thing that's why i

1176
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,000
said it is a hard question man like i

1177
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:56,480
you know no and i hate going with that

1178
00:38:59,109 --> 00:38:57,440
answer because

1179
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,119
because after the documentary everyone's

1180
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,440
like everyone goes oh yeah you saw the

1181
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:03,119
documentary and i'm like no i didn't see

1182
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:03,520
the doc

1183
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:07,839
this has been i've been thinking about

1184
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:09,760
this for a long time in this case john

1185
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:12,079
mack was on it i think john mack is

1186
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,800
an og the other day i saw here's

1187
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:16,160
something interesting about john mack

1188
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:18,079
the other day i saw

1189
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:20,000
i do this a lot like i will jump on

1190
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,760
youtube and dig and dig and dig and dig

1191
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:23,280
and dig and look for older stuff

1192
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:27,280
and i saw a a video

1193
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:28,400
maybe this will be cool if you guys can

1194
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:29,920
go find it but i'm not going to be able

1195
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:30,880
to give you that much information

1196
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:32,240
because i just saw the video and then i

1197
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:33,359
was just like

1198
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:36,880
whatever but uh it was about john mack

1199
00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:40,240
and there was this this lady

1200
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:43,280
that pretended to be an experiencer and

1201
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:44,560
i don't know if she wrote a book about

1202
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:44,960
it

1203
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,950
she reached out to john mack and john

1204
00:39:59,109 --> 00:39:56,960
max center like a

1205
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:59,119
i guess a pamphlet or like a envelope

1206
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:00,480
with information on

1207
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:02,800
experiencers and it kind of like laid

1208
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:03,920
out

1209
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,400
how experiencers feel you know what

1210
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:08,240
their experiences are like

1211
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:11,359
you know what's uh it was like a

1212
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:12,480
step-by-step

1213
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:13,839
if you're an experiencer you should

1214
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:16,720
check these boxes but she was like

1215
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,160
she was like i can't believe he sent

1216
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,000
that to me because

1217
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:22,000
it's like he basically prepped me for

1218
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:23,119
meeting him

1219
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,720
right this is crazy because the only

1220
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,560
time i've ever seen anything like this

1221
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,400
and uh when it comes to john mack like i

1222
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:30,319
said i'm a huge fan so

1223
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:33,760
of course and uh she goes to meet with

1224
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:34,079
him

1225
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:36,880
and they do like uh like a session right

1226
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:38,000
where he does like his

1227
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:40,240
i think he did like hypnosis or whatever

1228
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:41,200
he was using

1229
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,319
yeah um and she makes up the whole story

1230
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,000
and she records it so they have the

1231
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:50,319
recording and john mack is going with it

1232
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:51,760
and he's listening to and he believes

1233
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:54,319
her like fully full-heartedly

1234
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:58,160
and uh she starts talking about

1235
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:01,280
uh like i think it was like a

1236
00:41:05,349 --> 00:41:03,520
a nato person was there on the ship with

1237
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:05,359
her because it was during like the cuban

1238
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:06,079
missile crisis

1239
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:08,800
or something like that and um so maybe

1240
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:09,680
it wasn't the 90s

1241
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,200
maybe i'm mixing up the times but if you

1242
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:13,200
guys look for this you'll find it just

1243
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:14,480
look for like

1244
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,920
a female writer um

1245
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:19,520
tries to debunk john mack or something

1246
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:21,760
like that and

1247
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,119
it was pretty crazy because there is

1248
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:27,200
that aspect of

1249
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,880
you know trusting somebody yeah and

1250
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:30,319
trusting the witness and the experience

1251
00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:30,800
here

1252
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:33,680
and john mack was her argument was this

1253
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:34,720
guy

1254
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:37,440
is completely you know he believes

1255
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,160
anything

1256
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,640
right like he is like he's bogus yeah

1257
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:42,240
like he's bogus and he believes anything

1258
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,960
so

1259
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:44,319
go check that out guys because that was

1260
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,839
like the only time i've ever seen

1261
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:47,040
anything negative

1262
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:50,400
other than the people at harvard

1263
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:52,800
talking about you know him in a negative

1264
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:53,839
way

1265
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:56,400
but it's pretty interesting i i went off

1266
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:57,599
on a tangent there bud

1267
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:59,839
that's good bro i love that man i love

1268
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:01,760
you on mac too i can

1269
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:03,599
honestly say i've i can tell i've not

1270
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,880
done as much work or

1271
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,720
researching tim as you have but i find

1272
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:08,480
it so interesting

1273
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,400
and we i think i've seen that across the

1274
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:12,240
board with other researchers people go

1275
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,680
out of their way to really try and pull

1276
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:15,359
them apart

1277
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:16,800
and you're playing on their good nature

1278
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:18,400
in a way sometimes as well

1279
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:21,520
you know yeah maybe maybe john mack

1280
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,400
was rolling with her story not so much

1281
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:26,319
more as that he believed it but that he

1282
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:27,920
wanted to get through it and then maybe

1283
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:28,960
he could

1284
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:31,440
analyze it afterwards or i i don't know

1285
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,800
but you sure i mean it's not just it

1286
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:34,560
doesn't just mean oh he just believed it

1287
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:36,160
plain and simple that was it what a

1288
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,119
dummy

1289
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:38,880
yeah gotta be more to it than that man

1290
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,839
like the guy's not stupid

1291
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:43,599
no definitely he'd been in the game for

1292
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:45,839
a long time before and probably after

1293
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:46,240
that

1294
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,359
happens

1295
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:51,680
to me it's happened to me before where i

1296
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:52,560
get carried away

1297
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:56,400
video or a photo

1298
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:59,520
and i mess up and i ask i made a whole

1299
00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:00,079
video

1300
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:03,520
about the the moon and uh there was like

1301
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,599
a crater on the moon

1302
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:07,280
and there was like a look looked like a

1303
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:09,200
saucer right above one of the craters on

1304
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:10,480
the moon

1305
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,520
i think it was like from one of the

1306
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:13,520
apollo missions or something like that

1307
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:16,400
i remember now it was years ago and i

1308
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:17,839
spent i stayed up all night

1309
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:20,480
i had it all ready i wrote it out i did

1310
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,440
the whole video

1311
00:43:24,710 --> 00:43:23,599
then i watched it over once i watched it

1312
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:24,720
over twice

1313
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:27,359
third time i watch it over i'm like you

1314
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:28,480
know what maybe that

1315
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:32,000
is not a saucer and it's like a shadow

1316
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,800
on the moon from the crater but i had

1317
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:36,000
made a whole video

1318
00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,920
saying like oh this is a saucer and this

1319
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:39,760
is and i was like jesus

1320
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:42,800
man it's a it's a shadow from the moon

1321
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:47,440
like i debunked myself you know so

1322
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:49,920
remember everybody that could totally

1323
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:50,560
happen

1324
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:51,760
there's nothing wrong with that it's

1325
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:53,359
gonna happen to you a lot it happens a

1326
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:55,599
lot i was just gonna say exactly that

1327
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,960
man i've been

1328
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:58,640
just in the same position maybe not like

1329
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:01,119
made the video already but like

1330
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:04,079
a night's worth of down a specific

1331
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,880
rabbit hole

1332
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:06,720
thinking you're really getting somewhere

1333
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:08,400
like oh my god you're almost at a

1334
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:10,400
revelation or something

1335
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:12,160
all of a sudden something flicks in your

1336
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:13,680
head and you ask yourself that one

1337
00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:15,440
question that just

1338
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:17,359
jumps you back to reality out of the

1339
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:18,640
rabbit hole and you're like

1340
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,119
god damn it man yeah yeah so often

1341
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,880
so often and i learned i learned a

1342
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:26,800
lesson that time i was like well don't

1343
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:28,400
make the video next time

1344
00:44:31,990 --> 00:44:29,920
watch the video like five times before

1345
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,000
you put it out or something

1346
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:34,240
you know even though i gotta say it's

1347
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:35,760
gonna happen a million times i've made

1348
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:36,400
some

1349
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:39,599
like the friendship case

1350
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,000
you heard of that case yeah yeah like

1351
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:44,079
that's a crazy case and i'm sure if you

1352
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:46,319
wanted to find holes in it you could

1353
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,359
absolutely yeah some of those cases like

1354
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,760
that one in particular

1355
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:53,280
you've got to set yourself levels as

1356
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:54,560
well because you're talking about some

1357
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,280
cases that

1358
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,599
do require a hell of a lot of work and

1359
00:45:02,790 --> 00:44:59,359
you still might not get

1360
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,800
the answers so you're risking a lot yeah

1361
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,319
especially if you're putting work out on

1362
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:06,560
those cases so fair play if you know if

1363
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:08,000
you're gonna do that

1364
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:10,079
tough man i'm not saying i just stick to

1365
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:11,920
the easy ones but i really have to be

1366
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,200
in the right frame of mind to challenge

1367
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:17,119
how i want to research or where i'm to

1368
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,800
go how much time i'm going to put into

1369
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:19,920
it as well

1370
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:22,240
yeah what's your uh what's your favorite

1371
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:23,200
case

1372
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:26,160
um i've got probably i've got more than

1373
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,000
one

1374
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:30,800
my most current famous case is it's an

1375
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,079
obvious one it's the nimitz

1376
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,319
case i think because it's almost what

1377
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:36,480
kickstarted this current revolution

1378
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:37,599
that might not be the right word

1379
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:39,119
revolution but i think people know what

1380
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,950
yeah before that probably the rendulsham

1381
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,000
forest case from

1382
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:48,720
1980 in england you know it's kind of

1383
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,040
like

1384
00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:51,599
our roswell that's what they call it i

1385
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:52,800
think that case

1386
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,160
is probably definitely you know i i did

1387
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:58,319
a video on that case too i think i

1388
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:00,000
didn't i don't know maybe maybe i didn't

1389
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:03,119
i don't even remember anymore but um but

1390
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:05,440
i remember there was a part of it

1391
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:08,240
where um i'm forgetting the name what's

1392
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:08,720
the

1393
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,960
super famous

1394
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:15,599
right there's larry warren jim uh

1395
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:16,880
charles holt

1396
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:19,200
i think it was charles hall i never know

1397
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:20,400
which one's which

1398
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,000
these days i think i think it was

1399
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:24,640
charles halt that he touched the craft

1400
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,560
and then the craft sort of like

1401
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:28,400
gave him images inside of his mind and

1402
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:29,599
he wrote it down

1403
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:31,280
like the binary code and all that stuff

1404
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:33,040
yeah yeah yeah

1405
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:35,200
well i took the binary code and i was

1406
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:36,880
like oh this is awesome oh my god and

1407
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:37,599
then i

1408
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,800
like had it de-phrased or rephrased i

1409
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:42,960
deciphered it yeah yeah

1410
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:46,400
and um and it was like

1411
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:49,040
it was something about like vacation it

1412
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:50,240
was like

1413
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:57,359
talking about earth or the planet but it

1414
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:58,800
was kind of like listing things i can't

1415
00:47:01,190 --> 00:47:00,319
really remember now because it was years

1416
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:01,200
ago but

1417
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:02,880
yeah that was another another moment

1418
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,880
where i was like

1419
00:47:08,950 --> 00:47:07,200
well what what is this even mean and now

1420
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,960
i can't even talk about this like

1421
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,720
i thought it was super awesome right

1422
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:12,960
yeah because for me the case is

1423
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:15,680
legit too because you have you have a

1424
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:16,640
lot of witnesses

1425
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,400
you have people that suffered physical

1426
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:20,000
ailments from

1427
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:21,760
you know getting too close to the craft

1428
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,520
yeah

1429
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:25,599
and you have the audio recordings of

1430
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:26,720
them seeing it

1431
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:30,640
yeah um and yeah and you guys have you

1432
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:31,680
been to rental show

1433
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:33,920
i haven't no i know it's like two hours

1434
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,960
down the road but

1435
00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:36,240
i mean everything is in england because

1436
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:38,960
it's quite small and

1437
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:41,200
that's the thing i need to go man i mean

1438
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,480
they've got that proper

1439
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:44,319
ufo trail there now which is kind of

1440
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,520
like a little

1441
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:47,440
tourist attraction i do i really want to

1442
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,760
go and just catch the vibe and that

1443
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:51,359
but it's something again i talk to

1444
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,800
people about all the time is i don't

1445
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,640
really have anyone near me that i can

1446
00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:56,160
do that kind of thing with who's this

1447
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,160
enthusiastic you know

1448
00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:00,960
yeah i find that with a lot of people

1449
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:01,760
i've talked to

1450
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:03,440
there's not many it's not they can just

1451
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,960
call up their best mate who's just super

1452
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:06,480
into ufos too

1453
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,720
no you know maybe that's why i'm trying

1454
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:10,319
to build these connections now

1455
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,160
you know overseas and in england there

1456
00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:15,119
is i can look now cove it's pretty much

1457
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:16,640
looks like it's going the right way and

1458
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,800
dissipating and i can start planning

1459
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:20,000
stuff with some of my new friends

1460
00:48:24,309 --> 00:48:22,720
that i've made and reynolds up there man

1461
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:24,319
reynolds up there and remember i think

1462
00:48:28,630 --> 00:48:25,359
there's a mock-up

1463
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:28,640
of the craft yeah there is yeah yeah

1464
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:31,680
that's pretty cool but um yeah you're

1465
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:32,559
definitely right about

1466
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:35,040
not having ufo friends and like next to

1467
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:36,079
you or around you

1468
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,319
it's difficult especially people that

1469
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:40,319
are really because

1470
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:41,680
there are people that are interested in

1471
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:44,480
it but not people that are like

1472
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:47,200
invested in it you know yeah absolutely

1473
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:47,599
we are

1474
00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:52,240
need the right kind of

1475
00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:54,640
friends uh to go on adventures with or

1476
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:56,000
you just go alone

1477
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:58,880
i spent so much time alone filming stuff

1478
00:49:03,750 --> 00:48:59,680
you know

1479
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:03,760
yeah um and sometimes it's really

1480
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:06,000
uh kind of like beautiful to go on

1481
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:06,880
adventures alone

1482
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,119
because you're like you there's nobody

1483
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:10,800
there to hurry you up or

1484
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:12,559
or to slow you down and it's just like

1485
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:14,240
you and your thoughts and what you're

1486
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:15,520
thinking about

1487
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:17,040
you know i think i saw that on your

1488
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:18,720
channel actually sorry to interrupt just

1489
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:20,319
going back a few years i think on your

1490
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,760
youtube channel you were just

1491
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,440
just walking the streets doing almost

1492
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,520
like mini vlog type things yeah

1493
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,359
they were really cool and beautiful man

1494
00:49:30,549 --> 00:49:29,119
i remember that that really stuck out to

1495
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,559
me i thought thanks man

1496
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,880
that's cool i love doing those but you

1497
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:34,319
know what the crazy part was i would do

1498
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:34,800
those

1499
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:37,920
and i don't think i got as much traction

1500
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:38,480
as i did

1501
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:40,800
when i started filming from my house

1502
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:41,920
more

1503
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:44,559
you know one because filming vlogs is

1504
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:45,200
difficult

1505
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:47,200
unless you're like in like in argentina

1506
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:49,440
there's a lot of robberies that happen

1507
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,960
on the streets and so i would go vlog

1508
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:54,559
and i'd have to pick like areas where i

1509
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:55,040
thought

1510
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,880
like maybe i won't get robbed here

1511
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:58,160
especially if i'm walking around

1512
00:50:01,990 --> 00:49:59,440
you know with a camera in my face and

1513
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:02,000
talking english

1514
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:04,240
um there's cases of like people getting

1515
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:05,520
stabbed in the back

1516
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:07,520
and then taking the camera you know and

1517
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:08,800
uh

1518
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:10,960
so i spent you'll see if you watch my

1519
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:12,000
videos you'll see that i

1520
00:50:15,270 --> 00:50:13,839
would film in the cemetery here in

1521
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:15,280
recoleta it's like

1522
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,720
cemeteries here are all old and they

1523
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:18,319
have like sort of

1524
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:22,000
um i guess they're like temple style

1525
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:22,720
tombs

1526
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,359
yeah yeah it's like little temples kind

1527
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:27,200
of things like little houses

1528
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:29,520
and um i would go there because it was

1529
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,000
safe imagine i would go to the cemetery

1530
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:35,040
because i thought it was safe to film

1531
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,640
instead of you know going somewhere else

1532
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:38,319
but i filmed all over the city

1533
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:41,680
but then it was way harder to do that

1534
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,240
because i had to like pick

1535
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,640
where i would go what am i going to say

1536
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:48,400
and also when you're out on the street

1537
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:50,319
trying to talk about something you can't

1538
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:51,440
like write down

1539
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,480
what you're talking you can't really

1540
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,400
like read off of anything you gotta

1541
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:55,920
freeze it's really good

1542
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:57,440
it's really good to have a script when

1543
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:59,839
you wanna talk about something

1544
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:01,920
specifically you know and you're not

1545
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:03,119
just like

1546
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,800
oh having an open disc like we are right

1547
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,480
now like we don't need a script for this

1548
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:08,880
but i'm saying

1549
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:11,440
it's just being from working working

1550
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,800
from home i was gonna say yeah working

1551
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:14,160
from home and filming from home

1552
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:17,280
has been pretty good uh for me

1553
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,280
and i do miss though the adventures

1554
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:21,040
going yeah

1555
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,480
that's the thing i've got too used to

1556
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:24,480
this home life as well

1557
00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:26,319
you know i've hit my age with a young

1558
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:28,319
family and i just love being in my home

1559
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:29,359
space

1560
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:32,160
yeah because it's a little it's a little

1561
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:33,839
crazy i started um

1562
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:35,760
you know with the coconut and everything

1563
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:39,040
i've been like stuck inside like

1564
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:41,359
like for forever and then like stuff

1565
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,720
started opening back up and i was just

1566
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:44,240
like you know what i'm not even

1567
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:46,400
like what am i gonna do like where am i

1568
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:48,000
gonna go like yeah

1569
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:51,359
there's not too much to do um

1570
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:53,359
so it really helped though it liked the

1571
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:55,760
channel didn't help me much

1572
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:59,440
personally it didn't help me no no

1573
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:00,640
it's like it ended up being like

1574
00:52:03,990 --> 00:52:02,800
groundhog day you know where yeah

1575
00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,000
that movie where you're it's always the

1576
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:09,030
but it did help a lot with with the

1577
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:11,280
lives and the content and

1578
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,640
sure just growing the channel oh man

1579
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:16,559
have you got any plans going forward now

1580
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:18,160
not for the rest of the year or

1581
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:20,480
have you got any focus anywhere else or

1582
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:21,520
you know

1583
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:23,359
no i mean at the moment what i want to

1584
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:24,640
do is get back

1585
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:27,520
on the rhythm that i had going before

1586
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,319
with the lives

1587
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,720
i was doing that i got live every week i

1588
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:32,400
think last two months

1589
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,720
really the issue was like the rat race

1590
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:36,240
like you know the nine to five

1591
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,079
yeah i just have been overworked and

1592
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:42,319
i don't make a living off this right so

1593
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:43,760
yeah there's moments where i have to

1594
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:44,559
like

1595
00:52:47,990 --> 00:52:46,400
go away for a minute and it sucks

1596
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:48,000
because i'm like in you know i'm in the

1597
00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:48,960
zone i'm like

1598
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,640
this is great the community's growing

1599
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:52,559
people are like totally supporting me

1600
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,440
and

1601
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:55,119
you know people want to see they want to

1602
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,960
talk and they want to you know i want to

1603
00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:59,040
be there to talk to them

1604
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:02,160
and uh and yeah it's just been

1605
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:05,520
difficult from that perspective but

1606
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:07,760
i hope when things open back up you know

1607
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,160
i've been sort of building up uh

1608
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:12,559
my equipment thanks to my you know

1609
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:14,240
thanks to my patreons they helped me out

1610
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:15,119
i got like

1611
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:17,040
some lights in here and i ended up

1612
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:18,960
getting a uh

1613
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:21,920
a gimbal an electronic gimbal wow

1614
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:23,680
handheld one

1615
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:26,160
yeah it's a i think it's the zoom the

1616
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:29,440
zoom crane uh

1617
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:31,680
two s or something like that so it's a

1618
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:33,520
bit big it's like

1619
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:35,440
it's like you gotta hold it like this

1620
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:37,359
and that's sweet man

1621
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:39,119
camera sits on top and you can like sort

1622
00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:40,800
of do like uh

1623
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,559
you know like it looks like a movie dude

1624
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:44,640
like it looks like a movie and i

1625
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:46,960
i got some new lenses i bought a drone

1626
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:47,920
the other day

1627
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:50,000
so i definitely have to go i definitely

1628
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:50,960
have to go outside

1629
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:55,280
um yeah and start filming outside

1630
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:58,800
but i gotta i gotta uh i would love to

1631
00:54:02,230 --> 00:53:59,440
do like

1632
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:02,240
short films like dedicated to argentina

1633
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:04,079
and different parts of argentina

1634
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:06,319
because there's obviously yeah the

1635
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:09,119
phenomenon here is just um

1636
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:11,440
it's there's cases from all over the

1637
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:12,240
place here

1638
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:14,079
now if you ask me what my favorite case

1639
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:15,680
is here

1640
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:17,839
unfortunately i'm like still a young

1641
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:20,480
buck when it comes to argentina cases

1642
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:23,119
because i'm very focused on you know

1643
00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:24,079
right i know

1644
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:25,520
i know all the other cases around the

1645
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:28,559
world but argentina for some reason like

1646
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,800
i don't know what i don't know why but i

1647
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,319
think in the last

1648
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:34,160
three years or two years i started kind

1649
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:37,119
of focusing on cases from here sometimes

1650
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,680
yeah but i still with the everything

1651
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:41,359
that's going on with the tic tac case

1652
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:42,000
and

1653
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:45,520
talking about it's like i lose

1654
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,839
focus from those cases and i come back

1655
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:49,359
to what we're talking about

1656
00:54:55,190 --> 00:54:53,760
but uh i went to bariloche

1657
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:55,200
and i still have to put out that video

1658
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:57,520
but bariloche is like um

1659
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,359
in the mountains like the mountains it's

1660
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:01,040
like the mountainsides here ring is the

1661
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:02,799
bell i've heard that name yeah

1662
00:55:06,150 --> 00:55:04,480
well it's in some movies you know it's

1663
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:06,160
like the nazis always escaped the body

1664
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:06,640
lochie

1665
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:09,119
that's it yes no i've seen a lot i

1666
00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:09,680
actually

1667
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,880
did a little thing on that about a year

1668
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,319
ago i just was obsessed with it for

1669
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:14,400
about a month so i was just finding

1670
00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:16,160
programs and youtube videos on that

1671
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:18,839
barolocia was

1672
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:21,520
yeah they actually escaped all over the

1673
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:21,839
place

1674
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,119
here you know yeah yeah um the body

1675
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:26,880
lucha was beautiful man and

1676
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,960
the crazy part was when you left the

1677
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,040
city i didn't expect this to happen we

1678
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:33,200
went in the car and we took this

1679
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:36,000
um this route it's kind of like route 66

1680
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:37,440
right so it's just like one route

1681
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:41,119
all the way there and uh

1682
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:44,960
it was wild like the the terrain and the

1683
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:48,160
like the environments were just changing

1684
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:49,680
it started you know all of a sudden it

1685
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:50,799
looked like lord of the rings and then

1686
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:52,240
all of a sudden it looked like

1687
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:54,559
you know like the back set for e.t and

1688
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:56,079
then you just kept going and

1689
00:56:03,750 --> 00:55:59,680
yeah it just it was bananas like

1690
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:03,760
and uh somebody notion has this case

1691
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:07,520
where i think it was a airlines pilot

1692
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:09,839
and his crew if i'm not mistaken they

1693
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,640
saw

1694
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:12,720
a craft in the sky there was also a

1695
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:14,000
secondary plane

1696
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,799
there was like a border patrol plane

1697
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:18,559
right i saw the craft as well

1698
00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:21,520
the electricity and body lotion cut out

1699
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:22,559
and um

1700
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:25,920
people saw uh there's a lot

1701
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:28,000
it had multiple witnesses basically and

1702
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:29,040
they say sometimes

1703
00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:31,119
it's like the roswell of argentina too

1704
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:32,720
okay people say that

1705
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:35,920
um and

1706
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:38,079
when i went there i was like well this

1707
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:39,440
makes perfect sense

1708
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:41,440
you know like you can just see why the

1709
00:56:44,470 --> 00:56:42,960
phenomenon is here i even went to a

1710
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:44,480
place called las vegas

1711
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:47,200
and i made a video about that and las

1712
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:49,280
vegas is a little town

1713
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:51,599
off that road somewhere we had to drive

1714
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:52,799
off like two hours

1715
00:56:56,309 --> 00:56:54,319
into a mountain just in the middle of

1716
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:56,319
nowhere in the middle of nowhere

1717
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:59,040
wow and the town was like a few blocks

1718
00:57:01,589 --> 00:56:59,520
you know

1719
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:01,599
it was just like a little town center

1720
00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:03,839
like barely in any res no restaurants

1721
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:07,760
we ate at like uh we ate at

1722
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,920
it was like a person's house right they

1723
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:11,520
had kind of makeshift and they created

1724
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:13,040
like a restaurant

1725
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:15,040
and the menu was like whatever they had

1726
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:16,720
the guy kept like leaving

1727
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,880
and going somewhere and coming back with

1728
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:20,400
like the food but like he would like

1729
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:22,079
jump in his car and go somewhere

1730
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:23,680
and then come back with like bags of

1731
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,720
food and uh i love that man i love that

1732
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:28,400
sort of thing i love that

1733
00:57:32,309 --> 00:57:30,559
it was crazy because the the legend has

1734
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,319
it that that town

1735
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:34,160
like they see ufos there so what they

1736
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:36,000
have is like a viewpoint

1737
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:39,040
in the town dedicated to uh seeing your

1738
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:39,680
foes

1739
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:42,640
right it's like yeah it's like a mirador

1740
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,960
of

1741
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:44,720
nice that's what they call it and when

1742
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:46,240
you go there that's like the legend so

1743
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,520
we were like eating

1744
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:49,839
outside in that makeshift restaurant and

1745
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:52,240
there were some other tourists there

1746
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,559
and there were some locals and they were

1747
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:56,480
like did you guys go see the ufos

1748
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,599
and they're all laughing like yeah we

1749
00:58:03,109 --> 00:57:59,839
went to see the ufos yeah yeah

1750
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:03,119
this um but my wife uh

1751
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,400
she was super cool and she was like we

1752
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:06,480
should go and stay there a night before

1753
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:08,559
we get to bariloche and you should like

1754
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:09,839
show it you should show it to your

1755
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,880
community

1756
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:12,559
and show them like that this is this

1757
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:14,240
exists sure

1758
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,240
so it's a short video i just walk out to

1759
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:17,920
the to the middle

1760
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:21,920
i try to go at night i gotta be honest

1761
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,160
the the road was like

1762
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:26,079
imagine it's all mountains on the way

1763
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:27,680
there and

1764
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:29,440
even my wife she's in the side of the

1765
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:31,119
car i keep smacking the mic my wife

1766
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:34,000
she's on the side of the car and she um

1767
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:35,119
she's freaking out because we're like

1768
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:36,720
getting to you know to the edges of the

1769
00:58:40,470 --> 00:58:37,280
mountains

1770
00:58:41,829 --> 00:58:40,480
and winding and turning yeah and when

1771
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,839
they tell us yeah

1772
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:42,960
we asked the people they're like hey

1773
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:45,040
where is this door and it's like 10

1774
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:46,880
o'clock at night

1775
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:49,280
and they're like up there you got to go

1776
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:50,960
up the road

1777
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:53,680
the dirt road up there just straight

1778
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:54,960
straight up and you got to go up that

1779
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:56,079
little mountain

1780
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:57,599
and then you know around a bend and

1781
00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:59,440
you're there

1782
00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:01,839
and i was like should we go you know i

1783
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:03,359
started getting worried i was like

1784
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:05,280
i was like should we go to my wife i was

1785
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:06,400
like

1786
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,400
seemed so strange to be in this little

1787
00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:12,480
town in the middle of nowhere

1788
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:15,119
thinking about doing this and also with

1789
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:16,480
my wife that doesn't

1790
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,160
she's not like me she's not like into

1791
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:20,240
the topic yeah i was like if anything if

1792
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,440
anything happens

1793
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:23,280
i might like scar her for life you know

1794
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:24,960
like if we go there and

1795
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:27,680
like a weird experience happens but we

1796
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:28,960
uh

1797
00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:32,079
we go up there and it's like pitch

1798
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:34,160
completely pitch black the whole road up

1799
00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:35,359
it's all dirt

1800
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:37,040
you don't like you can't tell if it's a

1801
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:39,599
cliff or if it's

1802
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:42,640
what sounds exciting

1803
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:47,040
it was exciting but we get there and um

1804
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:48,640
and i get out of the car and i leave her

1805
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:50,400
in the car

1806
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:52,000
it's got like a parking spot like right

1807
00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:53,920
at the viewpoint

1808
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:55,520
but i couldn't see anything man so i'm

1809
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:57,200
up there in the middle of night with my

1810
01:00:01,190 --> 00:59:59,119
camera it's super windy

1811
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:01,200
there's like i could see the mountains

1812
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:02,720
and there's like

1813
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:05,359
clouds and thunder in the distance

1814
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:06,240
because it's kind of like you know in

1815
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:07,520
the desert where you see

1816
01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:10,400
thunder so far away or something yeah

1817
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:11,839
and uh

1818
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:13,040
and yeah it was weird and then we went

1819
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,480
back in the in the morning because i was

1820
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:15,920
like i can't see anything

1821
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:17,200
i was trying to film the sky and i

1822
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:19,760
wouldn't there was i didn't see any ufos

1823
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:22,079
sure so i'm like let's go back in the

1824
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:23,440
morning and at least we'll show it to

1825
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:24,079
them

1826
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:26,559
if you watch the video in the morning

1827
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:28,480
the place just looks

1828
01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:32,000
amazing like the like there's like

1829
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:33,520
rivers running through there's like

1830
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,240
canyons and and you're just like

1831
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:38,160
well this is definitely where the ufos

1832
01:00:41,589 --> 01:00:40,160
would come because they could like

1833
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:41,599
they could like land they could like

1834
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:43,839
land right there and nobody would see

1835
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:44,480
them

1836
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:46,240
like there was nobody like there was no

1837
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:47,920
people

1838
01:00:51,589 --> 01:00:50,720
so yeah and one last thing about body

1839
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,599
lotion

1840
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:53,119
i didn't get this either on film but

1841
01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:56,000
i'll share it with you guys yeah um

1842
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:58,079
i put out some tweets some people read

1843
01:01:03,109 --> 01:00:59,599
it i met this

1844
01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:03,119
we stayed at these cabins and uh

1845
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,559
i just kept looking at the sky and

1846
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:06,160
paying attention and trying to see you

1847
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:06,640
know

1848
01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:08,400
i wanted to see something i was even

1849
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:10,160
trying to clear my mind and say like

1850
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:12,160
kind of like do a c5 thing every

1851
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:18,470
out of nowhere this groundskeeper comes

1852
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:19,839
up to me

1853
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:23,440
and he starts talking to me about ufos

1854
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:25,760
out of nowhere i'm like outside without

1855
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:27,119
the under gaucho hat

1856
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:29,280
smoking a cigarette in the dark all

1857
01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:30,160
right

1858
01:01:33,589 --> 01:01:32,000
and this guy just comes out of nowhere

1859
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:33,599
and you didn't say anything about ufos

1860
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:34,240
to him no

1861
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,760
he just starts talking to me and he goes

1862
01:01:41,109 --> 01:01:39,040
i was smoking the cigarette kind of

1863
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:41,119
looking around

1864
01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:42,640
and he said did you see any strange

1865
01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:44,640
lights tonight because out here the

1866
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:45,760
strange lights

1867
01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:47,680
you know people see them all the time

1868
01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:48,960
and i was like

1869
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:51,680
so i just started like continuing the

1870
01:01:54,230 --> 01:01:52,319
conversation

1871
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:54,240
just pretend i wasn't like oh yeah i

1872
01:01:59,990 --> 01:01:56,880
love ufos i was just like oh yeah

1873
01:02:01,589 --> 01:02:00,000
that's interesting um is it often and

1874
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:01,599
he's like yeah all the time he's like if

1875
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,000
you just

1876
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:04,400
pay attention long enough you'll see

1877
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:05,680
something

1878
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:09,440
and uh i was like

1879
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:11,440
okay and he's like look let's just just

1880
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:13,520
look up at the sky and pay attention

1881
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:15,680
and he goes you see that over there and

1882
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:17,200
i look over and there's like trees in

1883
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:18,720
the distance

1884
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:20,720
and there's a like an opening between

1885
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:22,480
the two trees right

1886
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:25,039
and he says do you see that that light

1887
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:25,839
right there

1888
01:02:29,589 --> 01:02:28,640
that's not a plane look at it and it was

1889
01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:29,599
like

1890
01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:33,520
crazy because

1891
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:35,839
it was like it was a second but i was i

1892
01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:37,359
wasn't even trip i wasn't even tripping

1893
01:02:40,710 --> 01:02:38,400
on the orb

1894
01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:40,720
i was tripping on the guy yeah talking

1895
01:02:43,829 --> 01:02:41,920
about it of course

1896
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:43,839
more than anything because he came and

1897
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:45,680
he starts talking to me

1898
01:02:48,789 --> 01:02:47,680
he says that and then he goes like that

1899
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:48,799
look over there

1900
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,119
you see that that's not a plane and he

1901
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,280
points and i look and there's like a

1902
01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:55,280
an orb just like crossing in between

1903
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:57,039
that opening between the trees

1904
01:03:01,670 --> 01:03:00,079
like it was up in the sky somewhere but

1905
01:03:04,630 --> 01:03:01,680
it was like

1906
01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:04,640
clear like a clear orb just going across

1907
01:03:07,670 --> 01:03:05,920
in the distance

1908
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:07,680
and it wasn't even that far to where you

1909
01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:09,520
like might mistaken it for

1910
01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:11,520
like a drone or something i was like

1911
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:12,640
yeah yeah

1912
01:03:15,510 --> 01:03:14,400
it was big enough to wear i don't know

1913
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:15,520
who knows what it was but i'm just

1914
01:03:19,270 --> 01:03:16,880
saying the moment

1915
01:03:21,109 --> 01:03:19,280
yeah synchronicity it just seems a bit

1916
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:21,119
synchronicity was super weird

1917
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:23,359
it's super creepy he starts talking to

1918
01:03:26,309 --> 01:03:25,359
me he goes like yeah like that and then

1919
01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:26,319
he goes you see

1920
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:28,079
it happens all the time here you just

1921
01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:29,520
have to pay attention

1922
01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:30,720
and then he told me that he lived there

1923
01:03:36,789 --> 01:03:34,079
for a long time that he was actually um

1924
01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:36,799
like an orphan that had moved up there

1925
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:38,720
and that his son died

1926
01:03:41,750 --> 01:03:40,240
like they had killed he kept saying they

1927
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:41,760
killed my son he was probably talking

1928
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:42,720
about

1929
01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:44,799
the police or something you know yeah it

1930
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:46,400
was but something like that

1931
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:49,520
and um i just kept talking to him and

1932
01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:51,359
the thing was he looked like a

1933
01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:53,920
like a native from argentina you know he

1934
01:03:58,950 --> 01:03:54,400
had like

1935
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:58,960
those kinds of features yeah and he just

1936
01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:00,480
kept talking kind of about the lights

1937
01:04:03,270 --> 01:04:02,079
and the orbs and he said that one time

1938
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:03,280
he worked

1939
01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:06,400
and like uh i think it was like a

1940
01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:09,599
a uranium field or uranium mine

1941
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:11,119
or something like that because he's

1942
01:04:14,069 --> 01:04:12,480
telling me in spanish and i understand

1943
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:14,079
spanish but i also don't get

1944
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:16,559
like every detail sometimes sure yeah

1945
01:04:20,789 --> 01:04:17,280
when they use

1946
01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:20,799
words that i use regularly

1947
01:04:24,549 --> 01:04:23,200
yeah sometimes i'm like okay i get what

1948
01:04:28,630 --> 01:04:24,559
you're saying but

1949
01:04:30,549 --> 01:04:28,640
but he said that he was working uh

1950
01:04:32,230 --> 01:04:30,559
on like a uranium mine or something i

1951
01:04:33,589 --> 01:04:32,240
don't know where those are in argentina

1952
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:33,599
after that i was just thinking about it

1953
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:34,960
like what the hell was he talking about

1954
01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:35,680
he said

1955
01:04:39,670 --> 01:04:37,520
there you see the orbs like we just saw

1956
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:39,680
but they're like down on the ground

1957
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:41,680
and they're like a few feet away from

1958
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:43,039
you sometimes

1959
01:04:47,029 --> 01:04:44,960
he's like me and my friends like we're

1960
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:47,039
working and we saw these orbs

1961
01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:49,680
just a few feet away from us and he's

1962
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:50,960
like i think they're angels

1963
01:04:54,470 --> 01:04:53,119
and i think they're you know messengers

1964
01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:54,480
from god

1965
01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:57,680
and i was like i was like yo this is

1966
01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:00,160
wild i just kept kind of going like oh

1967
01:05:05,349 --> 01:05:02,960
really that's interesting wow yeah

1968
01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:05,359
and then he just walked away he said you

1969
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:07,119
have a good night and walked away

1970
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:10,319
and i was like that's so weird

1971
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:13,200
yes i went cool at the same time man it

1972
01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:15,359
was super weird too because before that

1973
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:16,880
i was standing out there i had like

1974
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:19,520
brought a different camera with a longer

1975
01:05:22,710 --> 01:05:20,319
lens

1976
01:05:23,589 --> 01:05:22,720
right so i could like zoom into stuff so

1977
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:23,599
i had

1978
01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:26,000
that camera in my hand for like half an

1979
01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:26,880
hour

1980
01:05:30,390 --> 01:05:28,799
while i was out sitting out there in the

1981
01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:30,400
cold looking at the sky

1982
01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:32,960
and thinking like thinking like show me

1983
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:34,240
something come on look how

1984
01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:36,160
i could see everything i could see like

1985
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:37,599
the milky way you know you could see all

1986
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:38,960
the stars it was like wow

1987
01:05:45,510 --> 01:05:42,160
super open no pollution whatsoever

1988
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:45,520
no and i go back inside

1989
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:47,520
i put the camera down and i'm like i'm

1990
01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:49,039
like i'm not going to see anything i

1991
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:50,720
grab a cigarette and i walk outside and

1992
01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:51,599
i'm like

1993
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:54,799
cigarettes just looking around

1994
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:56,160
and this dude comes out of like the

1995
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:57,760
darkness you know because it's a forest

1996
01:06:00,630 --> 01:05:59,200
so it's like there's

1997
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:00,640
darkness it's like darkness over there

1998
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:02,400
so he just walks out comes up to me and

1999
01:06:05,349 --> 01:06:02,720
that

2000
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:05,359
experience happened and i was like i

2001
01:06:10,789 --> 01:06:07,839
didn't have my camera

2002
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:10,799
i didn't even trip when i saw the orb i

2003
01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:12,799
was just i saw it go by

2004
01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:16,000
and in my mind i was like that's

2005
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:18,319
that's crazy but yeah this is even

2006
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:20,960
crazier that this guy

2007
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:23,280
in a mountain in the middle of nowhere

2008
01:06:28,069 --> 01:06:24,960
started talking to me about ufos

2009
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:28,079
it wasn't like a ufo town like that that

2010
01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:29,760
sighting had happened so there

2011
01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:32,319
people talk about it but it was just

2012
01:06:35,589 --> 01:06:33,200
wild man

2013
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:35,599
the synchronicities you're totally right

2014
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:36,720
about it

2015
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:38,559
what do you think about uh what do you

2016
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:39,760
think about consciousness

2017
01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:42,640
in ufos i'm starting to really believe

2018
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:43,520
there's a

2019
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:46,640
connection somewhere um

2020
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:47,839
and i'm talking more about the

2021
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:50,000
connection or i'm not talking about i'm

2022
01:06:52,549 --> 01:06:51,359
thinking about i'm trying to look into a

2023
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:52,559
little bit more about the connection

2024
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:54,240
that they have on us rather than

2025
01:06:58,710 --> 01:06:56,880
us on them as in not so much looking at

2026
01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:58,720
us summoning them with the ce5 type

2027
01:07:01,270 --> 01:06:59,599
stuff but

2028
01:07:03,750 --> 01:07:01,280
the way that they can affect our our

2029
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:03,760
thought process is um the way we

2030
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:06,720
see them or don't see them and the

2031
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:07,680
possibility that

2032
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:09,200
people see things differently and

2033
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:10,799
perceive things differently

2034
01:07:14,470 --> 01:07:12,799
yeah i'm really really starting to open

2035
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:14,480
up to that kind of thing

2036
01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:16,079
but it's a very difficult area to

2037
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:18,319
research it is

2038
01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:22,240
it's it's not just data on paper

2039
01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:25,760
you know it's it's theories and stories

2040
01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:26,160
and

2041
01:07:32,390 --> 01:07:30,319
going to take a lot more time but i'm on

2042
01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:32,400
it now i i i've latched on to it i don't

2043
01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:33,760
want to lose track of that

2044
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:36,720
i want to be very open to it yeah you

2045
01:07:41,109 --> 01:07:39,200
know what i was thinking um

2046
01:07:43,029 --> 01:07:41,119
about you know i thought about that too

2047
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:43,039
a lot uh they're

2048
01:07:46,390 --> 01:07:44,720
at that aspect you know of them being

2049
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:46,400
able to manipulate our minds or being

2050
01:07:51,990 --> 01:07:47,920
able to control what we see

2051
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:52,000
yeah and if you believe that at all

2052
01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:53,760
they could be like influencing so many

2053
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:55,280
things that we don't even know about

2054
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:55,680
like

2055
01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:57,599
yeah what if they just appear to

2056
01:08:01,910 --> 01:08:00,000
somebody every day like a gardener

2057
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:01,920
in their backyard or like or a guy

2058
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:03,440
coming out of the forest on a weird

2059
01:08:06,470 --> 01:08:04,400
mountain path

2060
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:06,480
right yeah or a guy coming out of the

2061
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:08,240
forest in a weird mountain pass

2062
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:11,520
definitely um but

2063
01:08:14,870 --> 01:08:12,880
you know i've thought about that before

2064
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:14,880
like also

2065
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:16,799
if they can appear as an angel or appear

2066
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:18,560
as something symbolic like that

2067
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:20,480
they might be able to like start a war

2068
01:08:23,590 --> 01:08:21,600
or end a war

2069
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:23,600
yeah you know like fatima like these

2070
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:25,359
kinds of cases

2071
01:08:30,550 --> 01:08:28,000
um and that's something people should

2072
01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:30,560
definitely think about because like

2073
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:32,560
i always say the phenomenon i think is

2074
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:35,040
in control of disclosure

2075
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:38,159
at the end of the day you know because

2076
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:41,040
at the end of the day it hasn't really

2077
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:42,960
it shows itself to us

2078
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:44,560
it interacts with us and it does

2079
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:46,319
something with with us

2080
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:49,040
right it's like pretty obvious that we

2081
01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:49,359
are

2082
01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:52,080
we have we're valuable to the phenomenon

2083
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:53,440
for some reason

2084
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:01,110
um i was gonna say

2085
01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:03,040
but it still hasn't with all the

2086
01:09:05,669 --> 01:09:04,799
intelligence and all the technology that

2087
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:05,679
it has

2088
01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:09,600
it still hasn't you know created a way

2089
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:11,520
to make open contact with us and people

2090
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:13,279
go like well because we

2091
01:09:17,349 --> 01:09:15,440
you know we're animals and we're violent

2092
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:17,359
and we're but they could literally like

2093
01:09:21,030 --> 01:09:18,480
walk through the wall

2094
01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:21,040
change you know what we think make us

2095
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:22,480
feel a certain way

2096
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:25,040
they can do anything kind of yeah right

2097
01:09:29,829 --> 01:09:26,560
so

2098
01:09:31,829 --> 01:09:29,839
i don't understand what the big

2099
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,839
you know why they're not disclosing

2100
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:33,600
their presence open sure

2101
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,279
yeah and that thing people will say well

2102
01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:37,279
they do they do it you know

2103
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:38,560
they've done it to people they've landed

2104
01:09:41,910 --> 01:09:40,400
in front of them and and

2105
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:41,920
literally been face to face with them

2106
01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:43,759
and it's like yeah

2107
01:09:47,030 --> 01:09:46,000
but we all want it and i think and i've

2108
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:47,040
seen a lot of people say in the last

2109
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:48,000
couple of days

2110
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,440
or we won't get disclosure because the

2111
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:51,120
world's not ready and i don't like

2112
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:53,279
seeing people talking on behalf of

2113
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:56,400
the masses that's not right man

2114
01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:59,760
because i know i'm i'm down well ready

2115
01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:01,679
i know a lot of people that are so i

2116
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:03,360
think like i know where you're coming

2117
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:05,760
from it's like why haven't they

2118
01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:07,840
done something i'm not saying land on

2119
01:10:13,030 --> 01:10:10,080
the white house lawn but something a bit

2120
01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:13,040
a bit more than what they've been doing

2121
01:10:15,270 --> 01:10:14,239
yeah they don't even need to

2122
01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:15,280
they don't even need to land on the

2123
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:17,360
white house lawn no i'm saying

2124
01:10:21,669 --> 01:10:20,640
they could like just literally hover

2125
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:21,679
over a city

2126
01:10:25,110 --> 01:10:23,679
and like they could like land in the

2127
01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:25,120
middle of a town you know

2128
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:27,760
a square and walk out and start talking

2129
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:28,800
to people

2130
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:31,520
or even making them feel a certain way

2131
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:33,120
and just start making contact

2132
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:36,239
i'm saying you know i think coronavirus

2133
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,440
is a great example too

2134
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:39,600
for people not being ready like the idea

2135
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:41,040
of people not being ready

2136
01:10:44,229 --> 01:10:43,360
for to contradict that idea of people

2137
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:44,239
not being ready

2138
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:47,520
i think people are not ready for

2139
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:49,440
lots of things right yeah they're not

2140
01:10:54,070 --> 01:10:50,560
ready for a lot of things

2141
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:54,080
and but sometimes they just don't even

2142
01:10:57,030 --> 01:10:54,719
care

2143
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:57,040
you know they just continue living they

2144
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:58,719
they care enough to go like oh yeah

2145
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,360
that's

2146
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:01,600
coronavirus yeah but they're like but

2147
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,800
let's go have ice cream

2148
01:11:05,990 --> 01:11:04,560
and i'm not gonna wear the mask and i'm

2149
01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:06,000
gonna go you know

2150
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:08,159
i'm gonna do this and that and i'm

2151
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:09,440
saying

2152
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:11,040
i think coronavize is a great example

2153
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:13,280
that the paradigm can change the world

2154
01:11:19,350 --> 01:11:16,159
can change in an instant in a few months

2155
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:19,360
and somehow someway people will continue

2156
01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:20,400
to be people

2157
01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:22,800
exactly yeah there'll be people that

2158
01:11:25,110 --> 01:11:23,920
focus on it

2159
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:25,120
people that pay attention to it and then

2160
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:26,560
there'll be people i say the big

2161
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:28,800
majority of people

2162
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:31,440
don't even have time to think about most

2163
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,800
most of this stuff you know

2164
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:34,800
yeah and people are resilient man with

2165
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:36,080
the whole covert thing

2166
01:11:39,910 --> 01:11:37,920
if you'd have said to someone like up or

2167
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:39,920
three years ago right in a year's time

2168
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:41,199
you're going to be locked in your house

2169
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:42,560
pretty much for a year because there's

2170
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:44,080
going to be a global pandemic

2171
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:46,480
people would have [\h__\h] themselves really

2172
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:47,280
badly

2173
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:48,800
but then look what it when it actually

2174
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:50,800
happened people were like okay if we

2175
01:11:55,030 --> 01:11:52,000
play it safe and we

2176
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:55,040
you know do the right thing we can work

2177
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:56,880
our lives around this kind of thing and

2178
01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:58,800
and the resilience showed i think you

2179
01:12:01,350 --> 01:11:59,520
know

2180
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:01,360
yeah so sorry to all you conspiracy

2181
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:03,040
theorists out there i i don't want to

2182
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:06,840
go into any great like your thought

2183
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:08,000
processes

2184
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:10,320
you know people are resilient you know i

2185
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:11,600
think people are resilient i think

2186
01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:13,040
they're resilient i think we're

2187
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:15,920
we have resilient people and then we

2188
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:17,360
have

2189
01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:20,080
just people you know yeah and the

2190
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:21,679
resilient is like your approach was

2191
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:22,000
really

2192
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,760
that was a great what you just said was

2193
01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:25,199
great how do we work around this how do

2194
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:25,600
we

2195
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:28,480
you know i kept telling my you know my

2196
01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:30,800
family i was like look

2197
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:33,199
people go to prison and they can't watch

2198
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:34,719
tv they can't

2199
01:12:38,149 --> 01:12:37,199
uh talk to people on the internet they

2200
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:38,159
can't do anything

2201
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:39,679
and they're still alive and they come

2202
01:12:44,870 --> 01:12:41,679
out and they're some of them are fine

2203
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,880
yeah but i'm like so

2204
01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:46,480
a few months because this is in the

2205
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,400
beginning of the lockdown so i'm like

2206
01:12:52,310 --> 01:12:50,400
a month is not a big deal like in your

2207
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:52,320
house with food you can order with

2208
01:12:57,510 --> 01:12:55,440
netflix with anything you want like

2209
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,520
yeah uh i just kept thinking about it

2210
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,360
like that like

2211
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:00,880
dude like what if i go to prison i'm not

2212
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:02,880
gonna like start crying

2213
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:05,760
and then kill myself or anything no

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01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:07,440
exactly man i mean i got to spend

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01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:09,120
every day with my daughter watch her

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01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,440
growing up instead of her going off to

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01:13:15,669 --> 01:13:13,440
nursery and stuff like that you know my

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01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:15,679
partner was she's a lecturer at

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01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:18,080
college she was home we were doing we

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were having family time

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01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:21,840
permanently it was awesome yeah that's

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01:13:24,950 --> 01:13:22,719
awesome

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01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:24,960
i just had to look at it in a positive

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01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:25,760
way

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you know definitely that was the only

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01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:29,280
way to look at it you know

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so but for all those people that think

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01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:33,520
the world's not ready there's a good

2229
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:35,360
example of even if even if you think

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01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:36,640
they're not ready

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01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:39,440
we still are resilient and we still will

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push through it and figure out

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01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:43,679
you know and evolve that's the most

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01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:46,880
important thing too about this is

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evolution you know it's evolution man

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01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:51,520
it's like

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01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:53,760
understanding that we're not alone on

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01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:54,800
this planet

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01:13:58,709 --> 01:13:56,400
because people everyone everyone is

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under the idea that there's life in

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01:14:01,270 --> 01:13:59,360
space

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01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:01,280
already you know you ask somebody like

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01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:02,400
yeah of course

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01:14:06,149 --> 01:14:04,159
yeah aliens of course there's aliens

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01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:06,159
because there's just too much evidence

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01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:08,960
out there to prove differently right we

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01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:11,199
haven't found any life in space yet

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01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:12,719
but there's so much there's so many

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01:14:16,950 --> 01:14:14,560
possibilities that it's almost

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01:14:18,070 --> 01:14:16,960
evident i mean it's almost impossible

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01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:18,080
that there's no life out there

2252
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:23,120
yeah absolutely so i think

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01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:26,880
um i was gonna say i lost my i lost my

2254
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:30,000
training i lost my train of thought

2255
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:36,950
i was gonna say damn i really lost my

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01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:37,679
train of thought there

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01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:39,040
i started thinking about all the planets

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01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:41,600
and all the now the universes and i was

2259
01:14:44,870 --> 01:14:42,400
like

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01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:44,880
floated off into space um dude that

2261
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:45,760
happens so much

2262
01:14:52,470 --> 01:14:50,560
this world of ufology your brain goes

2263
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:52,480
off into places and then you lose it and

2264
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:54,000
you have to

2265
01:15:01,510 --> 01:14:58,400
you're in a whirlwind of god knows what

2266
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:01,520
yeah but basically i'm saying people are

2267
01:15:04,709 --> 01:15:03,199
open to the idea of

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01:15:06,870 --> 01:15:04,719
aliens and extraterrestrials out in

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01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:06,880
space um

2270
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:09,760
but they're not open to the idea of it

2271
01:15:13,830 --> 01:15:10,000
being

2272
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:13,840
that's kind of ridiculous you know

2273
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:16,480
i think understanding that this

2274
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:17,760
phenomenon is real that's what i was

2275
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:18,880
saying it's evolution

2276
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:21,600
in the sense of it's going to take us

2277
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:22,159
somewhere

2278
01:15:25,189 --> 01:15:23,600
that we haven't been yet it's going to

2279
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:25,199
help our minds expand it's going to help

2280
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:26,480
us see that we're all the same

2281
01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:29,120
because we all are we're all the same

2282
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:29,920
you know and

2283
01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:32,320
even to this day there's still violence

2284
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:34,239
and people that

2285
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:37,280
don't understand that and we got to try

2286
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:38,239
and

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01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:39,600
look at the you know the right side of

2288
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:41,600
this and and

2289
01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:44,000
realize that you know the reality is way

2290
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:46,159
crazier than we could ever imagine and

2291
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:47,280
we got to start looking at the world a

2292
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:49,920
little differently yeah i know 100

2293
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:51,679
couldn't have said that any better man

2294
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:53,840
absolutely

2295
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:55,679
well listen man i've kept you long

2296
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:58,080
enough i think i could talk to you for

2297
01:16:01,990 --> 01:16:00,159
hours bro but i think we should save it

2298
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:02,000
and i'll get you back on my channel in a

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01:16:05,110 --> 01:16:03,440
few weeks time

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01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:05,120
things like that i think this is going

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01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:07,199
to go down people are going to enjoy

2302
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:08,800
watching this as much as i've enjoyed

2303
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:10,159
talking to you man

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01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,520
so unless you've got anything else to

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01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:13,679
say man any

2306
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:16,880
words the final words would be everyone

2307
01:16:22,470 --> 01:16:20,320
subscribe to uh vinnie's channel

2308
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:22,480
make sure that you know hit the hit the

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01:16:26,630 --> 01:16:24,719
thumbs up check them out on instagram

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01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:26,640
uh if you guys want to find me there's

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01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:28,320
my name at the bottom the undead gaucho

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01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:29,520
i am the only

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01:16:33,110 --> 01:16:32,400
undead gaucho probably on the planet so

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01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:33,120
um

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01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:35,920
it won't be hard to find me and yeah

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01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:36,480
thank you

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01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:41,040
i'll tell everyone that your

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01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:42,719
your youtube your instagram and your

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01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:44,320
twitter are all in the description

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01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:45,600
already man so

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01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:49,120
oh cool thanks find you

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01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:52,080
thanks man uh yeah guys have a great day

2323
01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:52,640
and thank you

2324
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:55,520
vinnie again for inviting no worries

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01:17:05,030 --> 01:16:55,920
yeah

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01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:07,669
guys what an awesome chat thank you so

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01:17:11,430 --> 01:17:09,920
much for watching

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01:17:13,110 --> 01:17:11,440
i've got so many more interviews coming

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01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:13,120
up in the next few weeks you can check

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01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:13,920
out

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01:17:17,430 --> 01:17:15,760
um the details on my instagram it's

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01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:17,440
again it's in the description below

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01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:18,960
thank you to everyone that's here in the

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01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:21,040
chat for being here you guys are awesome

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01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:21,440
as well

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01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:22,560
everyone's going to watch this in the